preflop JJ

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    • #26122
      Arturo
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      okerStars Hand #87531834333: Tournament #651011325, $15.00+$1.50 USD Hold’em No Limit – Level XII (150/300) – 2012/10/12 15:06:39 IST [2012/10/12 5:36:39 ET]
      Table ‘651011325 85’ 9-max Seat #2 is the button
      Seat 1: jetmukesh (20687 in chips)
      Seat 7: wyteeee11 (12462 in chips)
      *** HOLE CARDS ***
      Dealt to jetmukesh [Js Jh]
      wyteeee11: raises 300 to 600
      jetmukesh: raises 900 to 1500
      wyteeee11: raises 2499 to 3999
      jetmukesh: calls 2499
      *** FLOP *** [4c As 7c]
      wyteeee11: bets 5284
      jetmukesh: folds
      Uncalled bet (5284) returned to wyteeee11
      wyteeee11 collected 8808 from pot
      wyteeee11: doesn’t show hand

      wyteeee11 playing tightly — vpip/prf 12/12
      preflop was correct or not ??
      is this fold correct ??

      THIS PUT ME ON TILT 🙁

    • #34518

      kya mukesh bhai.. bad play.. you cant flat 4b there.. once you 3b.. its 3b/c i.e. shove over the 4b..

      edit: you can flat pre.. rather than 3b.. also imo..

    • #34519

      I dont think he 4bet folds after putting in 1/3rd of his stack in. So 5bet shove or fold depending on reads. Also 5bet shoving makes him fold a few worse hands, that could be troublesome for you post flop, like AQ. and what kinda $16.5 tourney is this where you have 20K chips and are HU ? not a stt for sure, doesent seem like an MTT either, weird..

    • #34520
      Arturo
      Member

      ok later on i got all his chips back with JJ from same villan… 🙂 Weee…

    • #34521
      Arturo
      Member

      i have edited HH and make it short…..

    • #34522
      Arturo
      Member

      Its MTT,i made it short hh and currently deep in it
      ….

    • #34523

      Its MTT,i made it short hh and currently deep in it
      ….

      nah dont do that, stacks around generally matter.Do everyone a favour and please just use a converter instead of trimming the HH so badly. How deep are you ? get some PGMP people to ghost you or w/e. GLGLGLGL…

    • #34525
      Arturo
      Member

      3/182

    • #34526

      nah dont do that, stacks around generally matter.Do everyone a favour and please just use a converter instead of trimming the HH so badly. How deep are you ? get some PGMP people to ghost you or w/e. GLGLGLGL…

      not done.. just wrong..

    • #34527

      @troll lmao …and mukesh with those stack sizes with JJ pre shove>>fold>>call….anyways ur deep…good luck…ship it

    • #34528

      not done.. just wrong..

      oops just checked out the definition of ghosting, I did not mean it as taking over his account or anything, just to rail him, and discussing tricky spots just after the hand.I agree telling him what to do everyhand is unethical, but discussing spots after the hand is ok I guess, cause I do this often. oh and I did not meant to include PGMP in way, its just that there are a good bunch of players, who he would know from PGMP. Apologies.

    • #34529

      oops just checked out the definition of ghosting, I did not mean it as taking over his account or anything, just to rail him, and discussing tricky spots just after the hand.I agree telling him what to do everyhand is unethical, but discussing spots after the hand is ok I guess, cause I do this often. oh and I did not meant to include PGMP in way, its just that there are a good bunch of players, who he would know from PGMP. Apologies.

      np bro.. coaching is good and best way to learn in fact.. but not in real time imo..

    • #34530

      Terrible play Mukesh.

      Not getting it in with JJ at this stack depth is beyond awful. This is very basic stuff and its really depressing to see the same fear based plays over and over and over again in these forums. Not once does anyone ever make a mistake on the side of being too aggressive preflop. Literally 0 threads in this forum have seen anybody in the entire PGMP program make a mistake by being too aggro pre-flop. My advice just learn from somewhere what hands can’t be folded at certain stack depths and number of players and please NEVER EVER fold under those circumstances.

      And btw to all the others shove>>>>>>>>>>flat>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>fold.

      Folding this pre is literally brain-dead. It is not an option and flatting is miles better.

    • #34531
      Arjun Parmar
      Member

      shove bhai…

    • #34532

      i said shove>>fold>>call because if he calls with JJ and sees AK2 on flop it would be really tough for him to call or raise…so in my openion calling is worse than folding….and shoving with JJ with these stakes is always a right play…i would never call here

    • #26123

      Your opinion is unfortunately wrong.

      It is pretty terrible to base an opinion only on unlikely worst case scenarios.

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