Was this shove justified

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    • #24909

      SB: t3092 M = 4.58
      Hero (BB): t9359 M = 13.87
      BTN: t55049 M = 81.55

      Pre Flop: (t675) Hero is BB with Td Jd
      BTN raises to t800, 1 fold, Hero raises to t9334 all in, BTN calls t8534

      Flop: (t18943) 6s Kd 3s (2 players – 1 is all in)

      Turn: (t18943) 8s (2 players – 1 is all in)

      River: (t18943) Ah (2 players – 1 is all in)

      With a shortstack so short and a chipleader so strong should i have waited a couple of rounds until shortie gets eliminated and be contented with 2nd position or is this shove justified. It was a 45 man SnG on pokerstars so pretty decent pay jump.

    • #31642
      saby
      Member

      No its not justified…effective M greater than 8 u can flat see flop, with 3 ppl and a short stack there is heavy ICM considerations here i would add 20% to equity required…shove only KK+

    • #31643

      SB: t3092 M = 4.58
      Hero (BB): t9359 M = 13.87
      BTN: t55049 M = 81.55

      Pre Flop: (t675) Hero is BB with Td Jd
      BTN raises to t800, 1 fold, Hero raises to t9334 all in, BTN calls t8534

      Flop: (t18943) 6s Kd 3s (2 players – 1 is all in)

      Turn: (t18943) 8s (2 players – 1 is all in)

      River: (t18943) Ah (2 players – 1 is all in)

      With a shortstack so short and a chipleader so strong should i have waited a couple of rounds until shortie gets eliminated and be contented with 2nd position or is this shove justified. It was a 45 man SnG on pokerstars so pretty decent pay jump.

      aww thats a disaster do you see fold equity in that hand may be but shoving into a chip leader is not a good idea you should wait and find for a better spot u can always put pressure on the shorties but not the cl.

    • #31644

      No fold equity but yes I do see the disaster!

    • #31656
      vishal nayak
      Member

      ohh no the payout jumps are quiet high in such S&G you should flat or fold.

    • #31704
      Denny
      Member

      ohh no the payout jumps are quiet high in such S&G you should flat or fold.

      flat the raise and re-evaluate the flop or fold .. but IMO flat and see if the flop hits you hard ..

    • #24910

      This is an ICM disaster, the idea here is to play small pots and not risk your tournament life till the shorty gets knocked out and u move up in money. Got to fold this, defending is also marginal, basically I would be avoiding marginal spots till the shorty gets eliminated, especially against such a dominant chipleader.

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