How would you play this hand ?

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    • #25403
      ashutoshnaik
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      PokerStars Hand #81376868871: Tournament #575011336, $8.00+$0.80 USD Hold’em No Limit – Level III (20/40) – 2012/06/02 20:53:53 IST [2012/06/02 11:23:53 ET]
      Table ‘575011336 80’ 9-max Seat #2 is the button
      Seat 1: Salem Rus (3475 in chips)
      Seat 2: darkownz (1202 in chips)
      Seat 3: BoudyP (2994 in chips)
      Seat 4: AceQuad (2985 in chips)
      Seat 5: Spako3010 (3060 in chips)
      Seat 6: Purple Haze (3080 in chips)
      Seat 7: ashnaik (2595 in chips)
      Seat 8: rusxxxx (4304 in chips)
      Seat 9: jovdark6 (6560 in chips)
      BoudyP: posts small blind 20
      AceQuad: posts big blind 40
      *** HOLE CARDS ***
      Dealt to ashnaik [Qd Qs]
      Spako3010: folds
      Purple Haze: folds
      ashnaik: raises 80 to 120
      rusxxxx: folds
      jovdark6: folds
      Salem Rus: folds
      darkownz: folds
      BoudyP: folds
      AceQuad: raises 175 to 295
      ashnaik: calls 175
      *** FLOP *** [Qh 5d As]
      AceQuad: checks
      ashnaik: bets 120
      AceQuad: calls 120
      *** TURN *** [Qh 5d As] [Js]
      AceQuad: checks
      ashnaik: bets 720
      AceQuad: raises 1480 to 2200

    • #32613

      i would 4 bet pre.. anyway the way played.. call the shove.. if villain shows set of aces .. just a cooler..

    • #32614

      I like pre, I don’t think its gonna be too great getting QQ in this deep nowadays. You also lose tons of value from worse hands.

      You must bet a lot more on the flop because you need to get stacks all in by the river and this bet is just way too small.

      Obviously get it on turn. I am suspecting that this is a thinly veiled bad beat post where you ran into KT or something, but turn is still obviously a fist-pump call.

    • #32673

      I would get it all in on the turn as well. If he shows set of aces of K10 as prabhat said…. hard luck.
      But there are many hands which we will beat and opponent would have played it similarly…AQ and JJ as well….

      Ashutosh …were you trying to induce a bluff by betting 120(so low) on flop. or u had any other intention/reason?

    • #32675

      prabhat ..

      hypothetical q.. plan post flop after flatting 3b pre..

      board shows Axx Kxx .. call one barrel .. give up on turn? OR
      board comes 8 high..

    • #32678

      I would just get it in Pre most of the times. as played, bet bigger on the flop. Not pot, but something like 265 , Turn 675 and snap. I usually go pretty small with flopped monsters to let people float you . Any reason why u bet 120 on the flop and 720 on the turn?

    • #32683
      ashutoshnaik
      Participant

      Thanks guys.

      Prabhat, although I did get coolered here ( oppponent had AA), my question was more towards how you would play in this scenario.. More about bet sizing, etc

      SaranshPrateek – yes i was trying to induce a bluff.

    • #32702

      I would stick to standard cbet size on most flops, unless the opponent is tricky/spazzy .. Also changing you bet size is a tell that a lot of online players pick on very easily. Also turn bet is too much, especially considering the flop bet. We almost have a nutted hand, and should be trying to extract value from AK type hands as K10 is almost never a part of his 3betting range pre.

      I like flatting pre as well instead of a 4bet.

    • #32709

      I would stick to standard cbet size on most flops, unless the opponent is tricky/spazzy .. Also changing you bet size is a tell that a lot of online players pick on very easily. Also turn bet is too much, especially considering the flop bet. We almost have a nutted hand, and should be trying to extract value from AK type hands as K10 is almost never a part of his 3betting range pre.

      I like flatting pre as well instead of a 4bet.

      I completely agree here… standard cbet size on flop. Most online player will indeed get a hint when you try to induce like this.
      Since he 3bet you preflop… if he has strong ace AJ Ak… he would have check shoved. AQ he might do exactly like above.
      JJ KK 1010 …he will not check, instead lead into the flop.
      You loose value and chips against weak aces by betting so low A9 A10.
      kJ J10 K10…you are giving way better odds to draw.
      Any other hand…highly unlikely to 3bet OOP at these blinds and stacks. KQ will check call the flop and will give up on the turn.

    • #25404

      I would just get it in Pre most of the times. as played, bet bigger on the flop. Not pot, but something like 265 , Turn 675 and snap. I usually go pretty small with flopped monsters to let people float you . Any reason why u bet 120 on the flop and 720 on the turn?

      +1

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