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June 2, 2012 at 6:58 pm #25403ashutoshnaikParticipant
PokerStars Hand #81376868871: Tournament #575011336, $8.00+$0.80 USD Hold’em No Limit – Level III (20/40) – 2012/06/02 20:53:53 IST [2012/06/02 11:23:53 ET]
Table ‘575011336 80’ 9-max Seat #2 is the button
Seat 1: Salem Rus (3475 in chips)
Seat 2: darkownz (1202 in chips)
Seat 3: BoudyP (2994 in chips)
Seat 4: AceQuad (2985 in chips)
Seat 5: Spako3010 (3060 in chips)
Seat 6: Purple Haze (3080 in chips)
Seat 7: ashnaik (2595 in chips)
Seat 8: rusxxxx (4304 in chips)
Seat 9: jovdark6 (6560 in chips)
BoudyP: posts small blind 20
AceQuad: posts big blind 40
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to ashnaik [Qd Qs]
Spako3010: folds
Purple Haze: folds
ashnaik: raises 80 to 120
rusxxxx: folds
jovdark6: folds
Salem Rus: folds
darkownz: folds
BoudyP: folds
AceQuad: raises 175 to 295
ashnaik: calls 175
*** FLOP *** [Qh 5d As]
AceQuad: checks
ashnaik: bets 120
AceQuad: calls 120
*** TURN *** [Qh 5d As] [Js]
AceQuad: checks
ashnaik: bets 720
AceQuad: raises 1480 to 2200 -
June 2, 2012 at 9:04 pm #32613Vinay SuchedeMember
i would 4 bet pre.. anyway the way played.. call the shove.. if villain shows set of aces .. just a cooler..
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June 2, 2012 at 9:32 pm #32614Prabhat MukherjeaMember
I like pre, I don’t think its gonna be too great getting QQ in this deep nowadays. You also lose tons of value from worse hands.
You must bet a lot more on the flop because you need to get stacks all in by the river and this bet is just way too small.
Obviously get it on turn. I am suspecting that this is a thinly veiled bad beat post where you ran into KT or something, but turn is still obviously a fist-pump call.
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June 2, 2012 at 10:14 pm #32673Prateek VermaMember
I would get it all in on the turn as well. If he shows set of aces of K10 as prabhat said…. hard luck.
But there are many hands which we will beat and opponent would have played it similarly…AQ and JJ as well….Ashutosh …were you trying to induce a bluff by betting 120(so low) on flop. or u had any other intention/reason?
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June 2, 2012 at 10:37 pm #32675Vinay SuchedeMember
prabhat ..
hypothetical q.. plan post flop after flatting 3b pre..
board shows Axx Kxx .. call one barrel .. give up on turn? OR
board comes 8 high.. -
June 3, 2012 at 5:14 am #32678Sangeeth MohanMember
I would just get it in Pre most of the times. as played, bet bigger on the flop. Not pot, but something like 265 , Turn 675 and snap. I usually go pretty small with flopped monsters to let people float you . Any reason why u bet 120 on the flop and 720 on the turn?
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June 3, 2012 at 8:03 am #32683ashutoshnaikParticipant
Thanks guys.
Prabhat, although I did get coolered here ( oppponent had AA), my question was more towards how you would play in this scenario.. More about bet sizing, etc
SaranshPrateek – yes i was trying to induce a bluff.
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June 4, 2012 at 10:31 am #32702Prateek BhartiaMember
I would stick to standard cbet size on most flops, unless the opponent is tricky/spazzy .. Also changing you bet size is a tell that a lot of online players pick on very easily. Also turn bet is too much, especially considering the flop bet. We almost have a nutted hand, and should be trying to extract value from AK type hands as K10 is almost never a part of his 3betting range pre.
I like flatting pre as well instead of a 4bet.
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June 4, 2012 at 5:45 pm #32709Prateek VermaMember
I would stick to standard cbet size on most flops, unless the opponent is tricky/spazzy .. Also changing you bet size is a tell that a lot of online players pick on very easily. Also turn bet is too much, especially considering the flop bet. We almost have a nutted hand, and should be trying to extract value from AK type hands as K10 is almost never a part of his 3betting range pre.
I like flatting pre as well instead of a 4bet.
I completely agree here… standard cbet size on flop. Most online player will indeed get a hint when you try to induce like this.
Since he 3bet you preflop… if he has strong ace AJ Ak… he would have check shoved. AQ he might do exactly like above.
JJ KK 1010 …he will not check, instead lead into the flop.
You loose value and chips against weak aces by betting so low A9 A10.
kJ J10 K10…you are giving way better odds to draw.
Any other hand…highly unlikely to 3bet OOP at these blinds and stacks. KQ will check call the flop and will give up on the turn. -
June 4, 2012 at 6:59 pm #25404Aditya AgarwalMember
I would just get it in Pre most of the times. as played, bet bigger on the flop. Not pot, but something like 265 , Turn 675 and snap. I usually go pretty small with flopped monsters to let people float you . Any reason why u bet 120 on the flop and 720 on the turn?
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